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On Thursday, failed senatorial candidate Beto O’Rourke declared emphatically that he not only opposes Trump’s call to build a wall, he wants all existing border fences torn down, including outside his home town of El Paso.

But in his explanation for why he’s so adamantly opposed to the wall, the presidential hopeful ended up making several points that align with the conservative case for building the wall.

O’Rourke was asked by MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, “If you could, would you take the wall down now? Knock it down?”

As Hayes made clear, the question was prompted by a post by Texas Republican Congressman Dan Crenshaw directed at O’Rourke pointing out the effectiveness of border fences: “[Beto O’Rourke] should answer a simple question tonight with respect to the border debate:

If you could snap your fingers and make El Paso’s border wall disappear, would you?” wrote Crenshaw, adding: “Because this DHS graph shows that when the wall was built, illegal crossings dropped significantly.”

O​’Rourke happily took the bait, replying, “Yes, absolutely,” in response to Hayes’ question about taking the walls down. Asked if he thinks a referendum to knock down the existing wall would pass in El Paso, O’Rourke said, “I do.”

Beto then provided his rationale for dismantling all existing border walls: “Here’s what we know: After the Secure Fence Act, we had built 600 miles of wall and fencing on a 2,000-mile border. What that has done is not in any demonstrable way made us safer. It’s cost us tens of billions of dollars to build and to maintain.”

If he had stopped there, he might’ve been okay; instead, he continued — and ended up accidentally making the case for those who argue that walls do in fact work: “And it has pushed migrants and asylum seekers and refugees to the most inhospitable, the most hostile stretches of the U.S.-Mexico border, ensuring their suffering and death.”

In other words, the walls do deter illegal crossings where they are built. It’s also worth noting that those “asylum seekers” O’Rourke references would be deliberately attempting to cross at illegal points instead of seeking out legal ports of entry where they would apply for asylum. In other words, they are not would-be “asylum seekers” by definition: they are would-be illegal aliens. Fox News’ Brit Hume made this point in a post responding to the interview (h/t Twitchy):

“More than 4,000 human beings — little kids, women and children — have died,” O’Rourke continued. “They’re not in cages, they’re not locked up, they’re not separate — they’re dead, over the last ten years, as we have walled off their opportunity to legally petition for asylum, to cross in urban centers, like El Paso — to be with family, to work jobs, to do what any human being should have a right to be able to do.”

As The Daily Wire noted Thursday, the Republican National Committee has produced a website containing some facts about the crisis on the border that O’Rourke and his fellow Democrats are conveniently ignoring, including:

Fact #1: In four Customs and Border Protection sectors where physical barriers have been expanded — El Paso, Yuma, Tucson, and San Diego — illegal traffic has dropped by at least 90%.

Fact #2: In fiscal year 2018, U.S. Border Patrol seized or helped seize 282,000 pounds of cocaine, 248,000 pounds of methamphetamine, 6,500 pounds of heroin, and 2,400 pounds of fentanyl.

Fact #3: In 2018, over 17,000 adults arrested at the border had prior criminal records. This included over 6,000 gang members, a major number of those members were from MS-13.

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  1. Ed

    February 16, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    Geez, someone forgot to read the instructions, when this guy’s brain was being assembled. But he’s a ‘rock star’ and that’s what counts with today’s liberal voters. When Trump was down there a couple of days ago, a couple hundred “Beto” groupies gathered with their hero to listen to him squawk and dance around like a goofball.

    • Margie

      February 16, 2019 at 9:28 pm

      The only thing Beto has going for him, is he has mastered the Art of Theractrial Acting! He has studied and been schooled in moving him arms & body to make a point
      & try to be convincing. He’s just another Dumb Democrat Scolialist telling lies!
      Wake up American People, Beto is trying to fool you!

      • Ginny

        February 16, 2019 at 9:33 pm

        Yep, Beto has studied Hitler’s Playbook!
        He’s just another Lying Socialist out to Financially Break & Control America !
        Funny how those walls made people turn around and find another way to come in illegally!
        Thanks Beto, point made, WALLS WORK!!!

  2. Linda

    February 16, 2019 at 10:45 pm

    It is phenomenal that Beto is on the Democratic team. He fits in so well with the misfits, uneducated, minor league, socialist/communist breed, anti-Constitution, pro illegal aliens, anti-gun rights, low life, foul mouthed, liar, Conservative hater, anti-President Trump, disrespectful, loud mouth, and violence promoting racist. I would love to see him go up against the Angel Moms, who reduced Acosta to a pile of garbage.

  3. Ginny

    February 16, 2019 at 10:55 pm

    Beto is a Democrat Socialist who is out to Destroy
    America Financially so we are forced into Socialism.
    Google Democrat Socialist, a very scary Eye Opening

  4. LST

    February 16, 2019 at 11:57 pm

    What is the difference between a liberal democrat and an outlaw? Outlaws are wanted.

    • Kevin

      February 17, 2019 at 2:02 am

      Just read the Democrat Socialist constitution & bylaws!
      Wow their requirements for the ruling Board of Directors in each chapter across America states it must be made up of
      8 people, 5 men, 4- Minorities such as women,
      Genderqueers, colored people ( their words not mine)!!!

      Does this definition of Minorities sound like the all inclusive, accepting of all people, they are trying to get people to believe??
      It sounds like Democrat Socialist are some of the most racial, bigoted, homophobic people I have ever heard about.
      They say they are targeting low income & Latino Voters!!

      This is deplorable. Beto O’Rourke, Bernie Sanders are
      Democrat Socialist that want to ruin America & every
      Value this country was built on. They want all of us to be on welfare and for them to control all the money!!

      We must spread the truth about this Hitler Type Takeover Of America & Stop This Movement from Growing.
      They say they want a vote taken on Senate Floor so they know which Representative to Target and start their Crazy
      Tactics on to get their Votes for Medicare For All!
      Is Mitch McConnell playing into their hands or is he
      A part of this movement???
      Government is failing the American People, we must vote
      Republican in 2020 or Our Lives will change forever!!!!

  5. madge

    February 17, 2019 at 1:47 am

    Beto should just beat it.

    • Beto Dangerous

      February 17, 2019 at 2:11 am

      Beto is part of the Democrat Socoalist Movement that wants to break America Financially so they Control all the money and we live off the welfare crumbs they give us.
      Why isn’t MSM Conservative Media telling the American People what is on their website??
      Shining the Light on Evil & Exposing Evil is only way to stop this. Billionaire Madman George Soros Money has bought off most of the Media so he is controlling this effort to destroy America. Why has he been allowed to stay in the country and allowed to get this far in his efforts to take America Down???

    • Kevin

      February 17, 2019 at 2:12 am

      Beto is dangerous to America

  6. DT

    February 17, 2019 at 7:51 am

    Put this Betopismo on other side of the Wall that would shut him up. Pathetic dickhead!

  7. Jon Wisdom

    February 17, 2019 at 9:09 am

    Robert, the Irish/Welch liberal with strong ties to Jesse Jackson, goes by an Hispanic nickname.

  8. stephen winters

    February 17, 2019 at 9:45 am


  9. Joseph Kempski

    February 17, 2019 at 9:53 am

    Hey dipshit, we spend over 100 billion on those illegal migrants every yr. Whats the big deal with spending 5 billion to stop those pos

    • Ed

      February 17, 2019 at 4:05 pm

      The Democratic party has made it’s single agenda for America clear: Deny the President the tools to MAGA. Everywhere, at every turn. Our founders didn’t exactly see the separation of powers to work like this!

  10. PNut67

    February 17, 2019 at 10:08 am

    I thank God every night in my prayers he is on the DEMONCRAPS team. The blessing that just keeps on giving & then keeps on even more…with him in the race in 2020, MR TRUMP is sure to get his 2nd 4 yr term.
    As long as the RINO VOTING RINO citizens DONT screw it up for us again like this last go around…
    GET OUT& VOTE PEOPLE….& I don’t mean for this azzwipe that this story is about!
    #TRUMP2020 !

  11. Mary Johnson

    February 17, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    Changes his name and is a criminal and we are suppose to listen to him. All these people like Robert should be called what they are traitors.

  12. Ahzz

    February 18, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    Has anyone noticed just how “CREEPY” Beto, Cory Booker, AOC & Harris really are?

  13. Boyd

    February 19, 2019 at 8:20 am

    Since I can’t go through the wall, because the *wall works*, then I have NO CHOICE WHATSOEVER but to go through the Valley of Death! But wait! I can go through a Legal port of entry, but…..nah….I’ll face death instead. Yay smart me!

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